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		<title>By: Nilayan</title>
		<link>http://nvonews.com/2012/07/12/microsoft-surface-tablet-has-the-new-ipad-killer-finally-arrived/#comment-543311</link>
		<dc:creator>Nilayan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 14:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Nilayan</title>
		<link>http://nvonews.com/2012/07/12/microsoft-surface-tablet-has-the-new-ipad-killer-finally-arrived/#comment-543310</link>
		<dc:creator>Nilayan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 14:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dear tom, 
plz stop crying and try harder.. and if u have to go to such &#039;lengths&#039; to defend yout precious ipad i would say microsft is doing a wonderful job..
do u realise that the surface pro will run all x86 software out there and therefore the question of not having enough apps doesnt arise..
the surface pro atleast is a much more practical and powerful tablet which will run a full OS(windows 8) not a toy OS you use to play angry birds on..

as for ipad having half the market , windows has a &gt;90% on desktops so acc to u apple should stop making macs, nice logic u got there bro;
 
the only 2 factors which may determine the success of surface are 
1. the battery life of ivy bridge processors
2. cost of the proo version
and has nothing to do with apple or ipad mini..because anyone with half a brain can make out that the surface is a much superior device.

also the touch and type covers are a true innovation in themselves which are useful and practical not stupid gimmics like siri or retina display.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear tom,<br />
plz stop crying and try harder.. and if u have to go to such &#8216;lengths&#8217; to defend yout precious ipad i would say microsft is doing a wonderful job..<br />
do u realise that the surface pro will run all x86 software out there and therefore the question of not having enough apps doesnt arise..<br />
the surface pro atleast is a much more practical and powerful tablet which will run a full OS(windows <img src='http://nvonews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> not a toy OS you use to play angry birds on..</p>
<p>as for ipad having half the market , windows has a &gt;90% on desktops so acc to u apple should stop making macs, nice logic u got there bro;</p>
<p>the only 2 factors which may determine the success of surface are<br />
1. the battery life of ivy bridge processors<br />
2. cost of the proo version<br />
and has nothing to do with apple or ipad mini..because anyone with half a brain can make out that the surface is a much superior device.</p>
<p>also the touch and type covers are a true innovation in themselves which are useful and practical not stupid gimmics like siri or retina display.</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 08:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the author of this article says that they think the surface tablet looks like it can take back market share from apple&#039;s ipad. erm i do not think so. there are many many reasons for this, but firstly is that the ipad has over half the market to itself according to various respected polls. this is too high a share to make a dent in on anywhere near a short term basis, long term maybe, however if the surface tablet fails to sell in high volumes then it will be deemd to have failed by microsoft and by bloggers and technology geeks everywhere. next is the fact that there are 2 versions. 1 is more of an ultrabook, the pro version. this is basically a laptop in a tablet shell. that will not appeal to the masses as much as genuine tablets do down to price and that genuine tablet sales next year are set to be double this year with over 120 million. where as laptop sales are declining slowly and not rising as fast. 
then there is the rt version which looks more promising though that will fail too as it will be priced the same as the ipad(or as close makes no difference) so it has no advantage there, unless it is a lot cheaper. it also will fail as it will not be x86 compatible so therefore will not be truely windows 8 strictly speaking, more a dumbed down version. you will not for instance be able to do the usual stuff on it that you do on your pc/laptop. thats what the pro version is for.

also is the fact that the apple app store has many many quality apps on, windows store does not, this means they would have to tempt developers to code new apps for it or recode apps for it. they will only do so if they think they will make lots of cash from it and that will only be if they think that microsoft will sell high numbers of tablets

then what would microsoft do? would they police the app store to get better apps submitted and less viruses/malware etc or do an android and let any old rubbish on just to get high numbers of apps submitted and populate it quicker, thus ending up with a far worse ecosystem than apple.

once you realise these factors the surface seems less attractive and even the fact it has usb ports on is not that great as the rt version will therefore(due to not being a full desktop experience just metro...so therefore apps only)only be able to connect extra keyboards etc, not as many devices etc as the pro version can. 

then you may say at this point that the rt version will come with office 15 on it, yes but so will the app store. and now it seems the play store. office 15 will be available on both. 
so the rt version has less going for it then at first seems and the only way it can compete therefore is if it were significantly cheaper than the ipad, maybe microsoft will do an xbox and sell it at a loss then once loads of people have one, get them to upgrade at full price to a later model and make profits etc. plus what they would make on the apps etc.

even if they do so, if apple release an ipad mini then the surface really has no chance and it&#039;s game over for microsoft before it has started.

however only time will tell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the author of this article says that they think the surface tablet looks like it can take back market share from apple&#8217;s ipad. erm i do not think so. there are many many reasons for this, but firstly is that the ipad has over half the market to itself according to various respected polls. this is too high a share to make a dent in on anywhere near a short term basis, long term maybe, however if the surface tablet fails to sell in high volumes then it will be deemd to have failed by microsoft and by bloggers and technology geeks everywhere. next is the fact that there are 2 versions. 1 is more of an ultrabook, the pro version. this is basically a laptop in a tablet shell. that will not appeal to the masses as much as genuine tablets do down to price and that genuine tablet sales next year are set to be double this year with over 120 million. where as laptop sales are declining slowly and not rising as fast.<br />
then there is the rt version which looks more promising though that will fail too as it will be priced the same as the ipad(or as close makes no difference) so it has no advantage there, unless it is a lot cheaper. it also will fail as it will not be x86 compatible so therefore will not be truely windows 8 strictly speaking, more a dumbed down version. you will not for instance be able to do the usual stuff on it that you do on your pc/laptop. thats what the pro version is for.</p>
<p>also is the fact that the apple app store has many many quality apps on, windows store does not, this means they would have to tempt developers to code new apps for it or recode apps for it. they will only do so if they think they will make lots of cash from it and that will only be if they think that microsoft will sell high numbers of tablets</p>
<p>then what would microsoft do? would they police the app store to get better apps submitted and less viruses/malware etc or do an android and let any old rubbish on just to get high numbers of apps submitted and populate it quicker, thus ending up with a far worse ecosystem than apple.</p>
<p>once you realise these factors the surface seems less attractive and even the fact it has usb ports on is not that great as the rt version will therefore(due to not being a full desktop experience just metro&#8230;so therefore apps only)only be able to connect extra keyboards etc, not as many devices etc as the pro version can. </p>
<p>then you may say at this point that the rt version will come with office 15 on it, yes but so will the app store. and now it seems the play store. office 15 will be available on both.<br />
so the rt version has less going for it then at first seems and the only way it can compete therefore is if it were significantly cheaper than the ipad, maybe microsoft will do an xbox and sell it at a loss then once loads of people have one, get them to upgrade at full price to a later model and make profits etc. plus what they would make on the apps etc.</p>
<p>even if they do so, if apple release an ipad mini then the surface really has no chance and it&#8217;s game over for microsoft before it has started.</p>
<p>however only time will tell</p>
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